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Oct 20, 2010 7:11 PM

Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

I was just wondering whether the Objective-C support is still planned to

be released at some point. I know it was only in its early stages back

in April, has there been any development since then?

Although I'd like to get into iOS development, I have kind of been

holding back investing in a Mac etc. as I figured my favourite IDE may

start supporting it sometime soon, but if that's going to be a long time

coming I can factor that into my plans...

 

Cheers,

N.

 

Dmitry Jemerov Master 12,528 posts since
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Oct 20, 2010 7:32 PM in response to: Nathan Brown
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

Hello Nathan,

 

Yes, the Objective-C support is currently under active development. Note

that it will be a separate IDE, not part of IntelliJ IDEA.

 

I was just wondering whether the Objective-C support is still planned

to

be released at some point. I know it was only in its early stages back

in April, has there been any development since then?

Although I'd like to get into iOS development, I have kind of been

holding back investing in a Mac etc. as I figured my favourite IDE may

start supporting it sometime soon, but if that's going to be a long

time coming I can factor that into my plans...

 

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Dmitry Jemerov

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JetBrains, Inc.

http://www.jetbrains.com/

"Develop with Pleasure!"

 

 

 

wallaby.pouch Novice 259 posts since
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Oct 20, 2010 9:22 PM in response to: Dmitry Jemerov
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

Not part of IDEA Ultimate?

 

That's a great pity ...

 

Regards,

Wallaby

Dmitry Jemerov Master 12,528 posts since
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Oct 20, 2010 11:15 PM in response to: wallaby.pouch
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

Our Objective-C support relies on the Apple toolset, which only works under MacOS X. We can't include platform-specific features in IntelliJ IDEA.

joe  Novice 101 posts since
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Oct 21, 2010 6:34 AM in response to: Dmitry Jemerov
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

Hi dear

while all object-C programmers are on Mac, there is a lot of C programmers elsewhere, and as Objective-C is a superset of C, i expect many to use IDEA's perfect tooling to develop C programs

please consider this issue

Thanks

Joe

Dmitry Jemerov Master 12,528 posts since
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Oct 21, 2010 12:50 PM in response to: joe
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

Hello joe,

 

We don't see any significant market for a pure C IDE without C++ support,

and we do not have any plans to implement C++ support at the moment.

 

while all object-C programmers are on Mac, there is a lot of C

programmers elsewhere, and as Objective-C is a superset of C, i expect

many to use IDEA's perfect tooling to develop C programs

 

please consider this issue

 

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Dmitry Jemerov

Development Lead

JetBrains, Inc.

http://www.jetbrains.com/

"Develop with Pleasure!"

 

 

 

joe  Novice 101 posts since
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Oct 22, 2010 8:43 AM in response to: Dmitry Jemerov
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

Ok dear

i 'm sure you 've did a market analysis, and it's your decision after all

but can you make a minimal effort to make this IDE run on windows and support compiling c programs with gcc, just in case some c programmers who are in love with IDEA want to pick another IDE

 

as i said it is your decision and i cannot say to you to put resources on a nonsense subject for u, but it is just a wish

 

thanks

Joe

Rayz Apprentice 901 posts since
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Nov 30, 2010 3:32 PM in response to: Dmitry Jemerov
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

Are you using the Cocoa framework to write it?

Dmitry Jemerov Master 12,528 posts since
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Nov 30, 2010 4:49 PM in response to: Rayz
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

Hello Rayz,

 

Are you writing it using the Cocoa framework?

 

No. It's based on the IntelliJ Platform and uses the same UI framework as

IntelliJ IDEA.

 

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Dmitry Jemerov

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JetBrains, Inc.

http://www.jetbrains.com/

"Develop with Pleasure!"

 

 

 

Rayz Apprentice 901 posts since
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Dec 3, 2010 2:08 PM in response to: Dmitry Jemerov
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

Fairynuff.

 

But will you be able to share projects withh users who are still on XCode?

Dmitry Jemerov Master 12,528 posts since
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Dec 3, 2010 2:21 PM in response to: Rayz
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

Hello Rayz,

 

Yes, of course. We don't have our own project format - we use XCode projects.

 

But will you be able to share projects withh users who are still on

XCode?

 

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Dmitry Jemerov

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JetBrains, Inc.

http://www.jetbrains.com/

"Develop with Pleasure!"

 

 

 

Pavel Lahoda Newbie 1 posts since
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Jan 11, 2011 1:29 PM in response to: Dmitry Jemerov
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

@Dmitry : Understand your stance that you will depend on the Apple toolset and thus Objective-C IDE only makes sense on the Mac and thus you want to spin a separate product, no problem with that.

 

It would be great if you can target your current customers, i.e. Java programmers (using IDEA) who also code in Objective-C and give your IDE more "java" feel. I wish such IDE can hide separate .h and .m files and keep them in sync for you, providing you with the same easy, efficient way to design classes as in Java, just using Objective-C syntax. That would be awesome.

Dmitry Jemerov Master 12,528 posts since
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Jan 11, 2011 1:59 PM in response to: Pavel Lahoda
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

Hello Pavel,

 

Of course our Objective-C IDE will have many features to make it convenient

to update the .h and .m files in sync, switch between them and so on. However,

we don't have any plans to hide their existence and pretend that the language

looks different from what it really is. It would create far more problems

than it would solve.

 

@Dmitry : Understand your stance that you will depend on the Apple

toolset and thus Objective-C IDE only makes sense on the Mac and thus

you want to spin a separate product, no problem with that.

 

It would be great if you can target your current customers, i.e. Java

programmers (using IDEA) who also code in Objective-C and give your

IDE more "java" feel. I wish such IDE can hide separate .h and .m

files and keep them in sync for you, providing you with the same easy,

efficient way to design classes as in Java, just using Objective-C

syntax. That would be awesome.

 

--

Dmitry Jemerov

Development Lead

JetBrains, Inc.

http://www.jetbrains.com/

"Develop with Pleasure!"

 

 

 

linux_china  Novice 263 posts since
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Oct 21, 2010 2:20 PM in response to: Nathan Brown
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

Same question here.    How long can we get the EAP of Object-C IDE? 

Dmitry Jemerov Master 12,528 posts since
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Oct 21, 2010 2:40 PM in response to: linux_china
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

Hello linux_china,

 

We'll announce the EAP when it's ready.

 

Same question here. 

How long can we get the EAP of Object-C IDE?

 

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Dmitry Jemerov

Development Lead

JetBrains, Inc.

http://www.jetbrains.com/

"Develop with Pleasure!"

 

 

 

Steve Swing Newbie 10 posts since
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Nov 29, 2010 7:07 PM in response to: Dmitry Jemerov
Re: Objective-C Support : still on the cards?

Where's the best place to watch for the announcement regarding the Objective-C IDE EAP from JetBrains? I'm following @jetbrains, @intelliyole, @ptibird on twitter; visiting jetbrains.com occasionally. Are there better places?


Thanks,


Steve

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